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Collectables => Writing Implements => Topic started by: keith on April 19, 2010, 05:29:16 PM

Title: Pen boxes,brush pot? and lidded pot...Chinese
Post by: keith on April 19, 2010, 05:29:16 PM

Presume these are lacquered papier mache,computer won't do French accents,and they are Chinese,no marks,any idea of their age? the pens came with the boxes and the small red metal container has pencil leads inside,Keith.

Title: Re: Pen boxes,brush pot? and lidded pot...Chinese
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 21, 2010, 10:32:59 AM

Are they just lacquered items, or paper mache?  What does the inside of the box look like?

Thanks

Title: Re: Pen boxes,brush pot? and lidded pot...Chinese
Post by: keith on April 21, 2010, 03:55:39 PM

Good question,the insides look just like the outside,always thought they were lacquered papier-mache ,stumped as usual,
                                 Keith.

Title: Re: Pen boxes,brush pot? and lidded pot...Chinese
Post by: antiquerose123 on April 24, 2010, 11:14:20 AM

I think some things were just lacquered, and then some paper mache was also lacquered.  Victorians were big on Paper mache items.  Some Chinese items I just find to be highly lacquered for the shine...

...But I could be wrong, as just a guess here........can you post a pic of the inside??

Title: Re: Pen boxes,brush pot? and lidded pot...Chinese
Post by: keith on April 24, 2010, 01:58:27 PM

Inner pic' as requested,also another piece of similar stuff(got two small ashtrays like this)

Title: Re: Pen boxes,brush pot? and lidded pot...Chinese
Post by: Anne E.B. on April 24, 2010, 02:49:58 PM

The seated lady on the ashtray looks Japanese, not Chinese IMHO.

Title: Re: Pen boxes,brush pot? and lidded pot...Chinese
Post by: keith on April 24, 2010, 07:48:57 PM

Yes forgot to mention that,the plate is Japanese but seems to be made of the same stuff.

Title: Re: Pen boxes,brush pot? and lidded pot...Chinese
Post by: Anne on April 25, 2010, 11:03:27 PM

Some of these were wooden as well, quite often you can tell by the weight I think...

Title: Re: Pen boxes,brush pot? and lidded pot...Chinese
Post by: keith on April 26, 2010, 12:07:58 PM

The boxes are not quite heavy for their size,the plate,about 9 in's across,is light,so I'd presume the boxes are wood and the plate papier-mache?

Title: Re: Pen boxes,brush pot? and lidded pot...Chinese
Post by: Tigerchips on April 30, 2010, 12:18:02 AM

Hi, i was just browsing the Burghley House Collection for another reason and found this which reminded me of your items....

http://www.burghley.co.uk/cgi-bin/ImageFolio42/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Japanese_Works_of_Art

Title: Re: Pen boxes,brush pot? and lidded pot...Chinese
Post by: keith on April 30, 2010, 01:22:44 AM

Oh how I wish they were mine,top quality Japanese lacquer work,would love to collect 'inro' and the like but the prices are out of my league :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
                                                                                                             Keith.