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Lancastrian Pottery, England
« on: September 30, 2007, 02:18:42 PM »
Does anyone know if this pattern has a name please? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220155132780

I picked up a coffee set (coffee pot, sugar, milk, and 2 mugs) in this a couple of days ago, but mine are moss green not treacle brown (thank goodness!)

Is it 1970s? It sort of feels right for that era.
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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2007, 11:12:05 AM »
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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2007, 03:33:06 PM »
Royal Lancastrian lustre ware is very very collectable, prices on the up and up. 

here's a few to wet your appetite...

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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2007, 03:35:40 PM »
Anne, what is the mark on yours?  I am wondering if it is the same factory or a studio based in Lancaster that is using a similar name? 

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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2007, 05:53:19 PM »
I was thinking the same Lynne, we will have to have a litttle mooch about to see what we can find
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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2007, 07:48:17 PM »
Thanks Sue, I did have a look there but it's not wildly helpful except to confirm that both Royal Lancastrian Pottery and Lancastrian Pottery were both made by the same folks, Pilkington's. 

I wondered if the nice lustre stuff Lynne pointed me towards is the RLP stuff and my coffee pot is the common or garden LP stuff, but it seems that it was originally the Pilkington Tile & Pottery Company, then Lancastrian Pottery, and then after the royal warrant, the Royal Lancastrian Pottery [source: Mark Norton Fine Antiques & the Pilkington's Lancastrian Pottery Society].

Then I found this page which has a vase with the same bottom stamp as my set.... and a little extra info - I didn't find this page when I searched earlier! ::) - which implies the later stuff still reverted back to plain Lancastrian Pottery! No wonder I'm confused.  :blush:

Lynne, the RLP lustre stuff is fab, but sadly my coffee set isn't like that.  :boohoo:
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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2007, 07:54:18 PM »
BTW forgot to add that I also found this link: http://www.lancs.ac.uk/users/peterscott/pilkingtons_history.htm which says that there's a collection of RLP at Lancaster University in the Peter Scott Gallery, so when I go down to collect the printing later this week I'll try to have a looksee what's there.
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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2007, 02:09:16 AM »
Interesting article on Pilkington's Royal Lancastrian by Eric Knowles on his website which includes this line,
Quote from: 1
"The earliest pots were bought in ...  in an unglazed state from Firths of Kirby, Lonsdale,"

[note there should not be a comma between Kirby and Lonsdale, and Kirby should be Kirkby.] 

Kirkby Lonsdale is 6 miles over the far side of the fell from me, so I'm intrigued now as to who the Firths were making pottery there in the late 1800s. Another mention on the Lancaster Uni page for the Peter Scott Gallery gives a bit more info,
Quote from: 2
"a well respected potter named John Thomas Firth of Kirkby Lonsdale who had a small workshop on the river Lune."

I can feel some digging about him coming on. ;)

[Sources: 1. http://www.ericknowles.co.uk/pilkington/
2. http://www.lancs.ac.uk/users/peterscott/pilkingtons_history.htm]
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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2007, 07:41:50 AM »
John Thomas Firth (JTF), Millbrow, Kirkby Lonsdale. Late 19th C to early 20th C (1890-1910). Pottery, glaze and sgraffito effects. There also appears to have a Sidney (SF) and an Ellen (EF). All used incised initials with K. L. underneath. A. Lomax's Royal Lancastrian Pottery 1900-1938 (pub. 1957) is given as a reference. JTF's name appears in local directories for 1894 and 1897 but not 1920. All info from Geoffrey Godden Enc. British Pottery and Porcelain Marks
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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2007, 12:43:28 PM »
Christine, thank you, you're a  :*: - that's extremely helpful. I'll see what else I can find out about him locally.  8)
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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2007, 01:29:36 AM »
A follow-up on the Lancastrian Pottery story...  I went to the Peter Scott Gallery at Lancaster University (which has the most fabulous patterned glass doors!), where they have the John Chambers Ceramics Room containing a wonderful display of Lancastrian Pottery, including just one pot made by the Firth's at Kirkby Lonsdale and decorated by Lancastrian Pottery. The display covers all the years of their history, with tiles, vases, chargers, bowls, and interestingly as I wasn't aware of this, they also made ceramic buttons, brooches, and handles for umbrellas!

The company was originally the Pilkington's Tile and Pottery Company (founded in 1891) at Clifton Junction, just north of Manchester. They started making tiles two years later, by 1897 they were making their own pottery items, and by 1903 were making Lancastrian Pottery. In 1913 their name was changed to the Royal Lancastrian Pottery Company after they were granted the Royal Warrant by King George V.

Their earliest biscuit fired pots were bought in from a potter at Kirkby Lonsdale, called John Thomas Firth, whose workshop was on the banks of the River Lune, and Pilkington's specialised in creating the glazes to decorate them. Their glazes seem mainly to have been developed by William Burton, a chemist who had previously worked at Wedgewood.  They included designs inspired by and based on ancient Chinese and Persian patterns. Other chemists who worked for Pilk's included Abraham Lomax (author of Royal Lancastrian Pottery 1900-1938, Its achievements and Its Makers), Arthur Chambers (son of John Chambers) who created the Cunian glazes, and Joseph Burton (brother of Willaim Burton.) Joseph was the chemist responsible for the development of Lapis Ware in 1928.

Designers employed by Pilkington's c. 1893 included John Chambers (after whom the collection display room is named) and Joseph Kwiatkowski. Pilkington's also commissioned designs from Walter Crane, CFA Voysey, and Lewis F Day (who was described by Pevsner as "the most distinguished industrial artist of his generation", but who, as yet, does not appear on Wikipedia!)

The company also had its own artists, those responsible for decorating the pottery, who included Annie Burton, Charles Cundall, Gordon M Forsyth, Jessie Jones, Richard Joyce, Edmund Kent, William Mycock, and Gladys Rodgers

Many of those involved with Pilk's in the early days were followers of the Arts and Crafts movement and William Morris, and they were heavily involved in the formation of the Northern Art Workers Guild in 1893, and William Burton, John Chambers, Walter Crane, Lewis F Day were all officers of the Guild, along with R. Anning Bell and John Cassidy; and Lancastrian Pottery was shown at the Guild's first exhibition in 1898 held at the Manchester City Art Gallery.

The Royal Lancastrian Pottery made pottery until 1938, then stopped for the duration of the war, restarting in 1948, but they stopped making pots altogether from 1953 and just made tiles from then on (as they still do) at the original Clifton Junction site and at Poole in Dorset.

After exploring the collection we went to talk to Mary Gavagan, the gallery director, who has taken my details and promised to put anyone interested in pottery in touch with the board.  She will also let me know of any further info that turns up on the Firth Pottery, about which very little seems to be known still, and any additions to the Lancastrian Pottery collection.

If anyone is in the Lancaster area I can well-recommend making a detour to the University to check out the collection. The Gallery is open Mon- Fri, 11am-4pm, admission free, and they have a gallery shop and a changing exhibition area downstairs (which was featuring the Geometry of Fear when we were there.) More details from the gallery website here: http://www.lancs.ac.uk/users/peterscott/index.htm

[Credits: Facts taken from the gallery's brochure on the John Chambers Ceramics Room.]
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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2007, 05:26:44 AM »
Brilliant research Anne, thanks so much!


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Re: Lancastrian Pottery, England
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2015, 01:51:31 AM »
I think between 1972-1975 there was a Lancastrian Pottery set up in Blackpool, So i guess the mark dates to 1972-1975. Which brings me to my next piece....

 

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