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Offline Elaine

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Yellow Glaze bowl - ID = Ruskin
« on: August 16, 2007, 10:02:18 AM »
I think my great-aunt had a fascination with unusual and experimental glazes.  This iridescent yellow 'tea bowl' is 3 and 1/4 inches in diameter and 1 and 1/4 inches high.  It is very fine and delicate, but the glaze is sort of bubbly on the inside of the bowl, almost as if it hadn't 'taken' properly, and this is also particularly noticeable on the base.   

The mark looks to me rather like a pair of scissors, and the date is 1914.  Any ideas? 
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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2007, 12:39:38 PM »
Crossed swords? What do we call you on here Leni, Elaine or Mrs S?
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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2007, 01:19:26 PM »
I thought LOADS of people used crossed swords marks of various style!  I'll attach a bigger pic of the mark.  It really does look like scissors to me, or, possibly lower case b and d!
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Offline Tigerchips

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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2007, 02:10:32 PM »
If the numbers are hand painted they could be pattern numbers.
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Offline Elaine

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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2007, 02:23:15 PM »
Doh!  ::)  I just assumed it was the date because .... well, I just did!   :-[  (Maybe because I's stoopid?  :-\ )
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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2007, 02:58:20 PM »
Your definetely 'not' stoopid Leni.  :-* :hug:
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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2007, 09:23:25 PM »
I'm really tired, but did'nt Ruskin use a mark now known as scissor's mark?
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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2007, 09:28:13 PM »
I think those have flat edges on the handles of the scissor's. This one seems to have rounded handles. Unless there are variations?
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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #8 on: August 17, 2007, 10:08:59 AM »
Quote from: Tigerchips on August 16, 2007, 02:58:20 PM
Your definetely 'not' stoopid Leni.  :-* :hug:
Thanks, TC  :kissy:

Sue, I checked out Ruskin, but couldn't find anything showing a scissor mark  ???  However, Ruskin didn't seem likely to me, as this bowl is very thin and delicate; more bone china than pottery!  :-\   
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Offline shantique gal

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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2007, 06:48:17 PM »
Hi Elaine,

Could they be crossed keys?  The mark looks to me like the mark from St. Jean du Desert near Marseilles.  The color & style of glaze is right for S. France, and it certainly has the look of some other pieces I've seen of theirs.  I have a reference book with several photos of their different marks.  I'll snap a shot of the page and post it here in a bit.  Hope this helps...

Sherri
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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2007, 07:12:38 PM »
As promised, here's 2 snapshots of the pages with St. Jean du Desert marks...

(Moderator> Image links removed because of copyright)

Especially look at the marks on the first page shown!

Sherri
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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2007, 11:11:55 PM »
Just wondering, the name of that book you took pictures from.  Is it in french?  Is there one in English?  Does it have loads of marks in it ?  FOR US  :new:  Maybe the library has it?? 

thanks..wait for reply   :*:

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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2007, 01:39:07 AM »
Hi antiquerose123  :)

The name of the book is: Barbotines de la C?te d?Azur by Maryse Bottero.  I'm sorry, it's not available in English, only French.  I doubt your local library would have it (unless your library is much better than the ones around here). I'm not sure where you're located, but here is the US, it's not generally available in bookstores, etc.  You can order it from Amazon.fr or any number of booksellers in France.  You just have to pay a bit more (OK, more than a bit!) for shipping.  I deal almost exclusively in French pottery and I've found that there just aren't many English language reference books available.   :(  (BTW: Another good resource for French language reference books is here:http://books.libertys.com/.  It's an antique store in France that also sells a lot of antique reference books.  I buy from them a lot!  Hope this helps...

Sherri
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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2007, 09:45:27 AM »
Thanks, Sherri.  (I had a look before the pics were removed ;) )  I have to say I don't think my scissors mark looks a lot like the 'crossed keys' of St. Jean du Desert  :-\   I guess I'll just have to keep looking!  Thanks anyway to everyone who's contributed  :-*
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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2007, 10:25:17 AM »
After further research, I think the prize has to go to Sue!  :clap: This bowl is almost certainly Ruskin!  I was confused by the fact that they are described as 'Ruskin Pottery' but I have discovered that they also did make very fine bowls in the Chinese style.  Also the fact that they were really 'into' experimental glazes, and glazes were a particular interest of my g-a's, more or less confirms the ID for me!

So well done and thank you VERY much Sue!  :kissy:
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Re: Yellow Glaze bowl
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2007, 10:43:34 AM »
Your most welcome Elaine, it's amzing what you remember when you are befuddled.
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