Topic: My Art Nouveau vase - ID = Thomas Forester & sons

[notapotterycollector]

(Mod: Topic transfered over from the Glass Message Board)

Here is my art nouveau vase...ready for Tiger to identify

Btw, I still havent found out what the Richmond part is....

Trudy

[Tony H]

Hi Trudy
Can you tell me anymore about the mark as I cannot read it does the first word begin with A and can you tell is it made in England

Tony H in NZ

[Tigerchips]

I think it is Thomas Forester and sons of the Phoenix works.

[Tigerchips]

http://www.thepotteries.org/mark/f/forester.html

Printed mark 1891-1912.

A??? Richmond might be a tradename or pattern name.

[notapotterycollector]

So....are you sure I cant make rembrandt out of richmond??

160078441039
7418991910

A girl can hope surely......so now I need a Thomas Forester & Sons expert...

Thanks again Tiger!

Trudy

[Lustrousstone]

I still think yours is earlier than those ones.

See here for some more pictures

[Sue C]

I agree with Christine

[Lustrousstone]

Is there a signature anywhere, possibly in the tubelining? Those prices also seem OTT! Look around the net, there is some nice Forester stuff but nothing like those prices

[notapotterycollector]

Is there a signature anywhere, possibly in the tubelining? Those prices also seem OTT! Look around the net, there is some nice Forester stuff but nothing like those prices

Ok, my excuse is that Im sick as a dog at the moment. And head spinning and all congested, I still cant resist coming on here as soon as I get out of bed..

Now..what is the tubelining? And I'll take a look.

And I do think this one is much older too. I dont understand why it isnt called the same as the ones with the heads on ebay. Although mine has a slightly different look about it. And as for the prices, way OTT but it was exciting to see for 5 mins.

Trudy

[Lustrousstone]

From my ferreting about it seems that Forester gave all their ranges names, but that's not to say that they didn't reuse certain design elements, like your lady, in different ranges. Why waste a good idea if you can reuse it

[notapotterycollector]

Yup, that sounds feasible..

but still...what is the tubelining? I have my magnifying glass at the ready

Trudy

[Tigerchips]

Tubelining: The same thing you do when you decorate a cake using a funnel. 

Or... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubelining

[notapotterycollector]

Okay I went over it with a torch and a magnifying glass. Nothing.

I think the big blue V may be something.

And, much as I love this vase, it was really sloppily painted. The paint goes outside the lines a lot. And there is even one leaf part on it that they forgot to paint! Maybe it was a tester. Or maybe the A something Richmond WAS the painter?

Trudy

[Lustrousstone]

OK, so not R/A Dean who is known to have been a decorator about the turn of the century and who signed stuff. Glaze is funny stuff and it's really hard to make it stay where you want it. This piece is probably a transitional piece for the company when the skills weren't  quite there.