Topic: Charles I Hancock vase

[ju1i3]

I originally brought this up on the GMB in relation to a glass tumbler with a design featuring 1646 as I was wondering if at that time (1880s) there was some interest in the English Civil War. (I thought it was better placed here on the pottery board) Of course I always stick a hyacinth bulb in anything I can but I doubt this vase was made as a bulb vase.

The base is stamped Britannia Ware, S Hancock & Sons, Stoke-on-Trent, Vase Shape No. 52

If I'm understanding the base mark correctly, the blue and white Charles I vase dates 1881-1920? going by it being marked Stoke on Trent rather than Tunstall (before) or Hanley (after)? http://www.thepotteries.org/allpotters/501.htm

the design seems to have been used on at least a few different vase shapes
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/gerrards-auction-rooms/catalogue-id-srger10068/lot-e5a77402-d568-4e6a-947f-a50600ca0713
https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/wotton-auction-rooms/catalogue-id-srwot10083/lot-df9f1f10-172c-42d8-9ebb-a62601098a04
https://www.blueandwhite.com/products.asp?p=SHANK50243
https://www.blueandwhite.com/museum.asp?m=Hancock+Sampson&p=Unidentified+Pattern

The figure pictured is Charles I based on this portrait https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_I_at_the_Hunt

Those links show a sister vase with a woman but I don't know who that is. She looks too racy for Charles' wife Henrietta Maria, a prim and proper Catholic girl and I can't find any portraits of her that look like that. Any ideas anyone?

[Carolyn Preston]

Was he the one with the couple of mistresses (I'm trying to remember folk song lyrics here) or was that a later Charles?

Carolyn

[ju1i3]

His son, Charles II was the one with all the mistresses, Nell Gwynn, Barbara Villiers, etc, etc

As I recall offhand Charles I did not have any mistresses and had a very devoted marriage, until he was executed in 1649.

[Carolyn Preston]

So much for that logic then. His mum? His sister? A bad representation of his wife?

Carolyn

[Anne]

Not so prim and proper according to Sarah Poynting of Keele University! https://www.theguardian.com/education/2007/jan/18/highereducation.uk2

Possibly Nell Gwynn or the Duchess of Devonshire, both of whom featured on various pottery items?

[Carolyn Preston]

Well, you learn something new every day! 

Carolyn