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Offline jsg207

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It's says Austria but think its British
« on: March 18, 2008, 08:41:41 AM »
Hi everyone,

This mark has me baffled. The D and B initials in an art nouveau typeface makes me think it has to be British especially with the lion rampant in the middle of the stars, and then the word Austria has completely thrown me... anyone have any clues to this?

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Re: It's says Austria but think its British
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2008, 12:18:04 PM »
Hi Welcome to the board.
I think you can be certain that your vase was made in Austria - that's impressed. The question is who does the lion and stars mark belong to? It could be the manufacturer or a wholesaler/importer or the retailer. I can see no reason to assume British
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Re: It's says Austria but think its British
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2008, 12:41:05 PM »
Great news!! Do you have a similar mark I could compare against by any chance so it can be confirmed? I'd thought the lion rampant with a crown on his head was symbolic of England, reminiscent from British heraldry thats all.

The other thing I don't understand, if it is made in Austria, why wouldn't it be marked it in native language "?sterreich" rather than an English translation?

It's a oddity. Egyptian handles mixed with a Bayeaux tapestry relief. Can you recognize the technique by any chance and attribute it to any Austrian potteries? I've exhausted the web without much success.
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Re: It's says Austria but think its British
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2008, 01:47:08 PM »
It.s a nice piece, but they named it Austria becose it was an export item. See the many german vases wich have 'made in germany' on them.
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Re: It's says Austria but think its British
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2008, 03:06:13 PM »
The lion rampant seems to crop up in heraldry all over the world. I don't have anything similar but Bas is right, goods for export are generally marked in the language of the importing country. It's the importing countries that often require the place of origin to be marked by law, so if stuff is only going internally it may not be marked. So you do have the place of origin, just not who

Perhaps the soldiers are invading Egypt, it happened many times
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Re: It's says Austria but think its British
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2008, 04:32:11 PM »
I wonder if this has anything to do with Howard Carter and the discovery of King Tut's tomb, could we see a pic of the handle and one of the front please.
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Re: It's says Austria but think its British
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2008, 11:30:32 PM »
here are some more views
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Re: It's says Austria but think its British
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2008, 12:15:24 PM »
It's a lion hunt
Cue song http://kids.niehs.nih.gov/lyrics/lionhunt.htm#2 oops sorry  :nah:
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Re: It's says Austria but think its British
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2008, 02:38:49 PM »
Not sure they had lions in Ancient Egypt, Christine?   8:)

The chariot looks Roman rather than Egyptian I think... I've been looking for clues in the symbology of the images but not found anything yet. There's not much about Austrian pottery as such either (with marks anyhow) - just porcelain.
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Re: It's says Austria but think its British
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2008, 02:48:34 PM »
They did, Pharaohs hunted them. Scroll down to wildlife http://www.thekeep.org/~kunoichi/kunoichi/themestream/egypt_animals.html You haven't read any Christian Jacq then
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Re: It's says Austria but think its British
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2008, 02:49:37 PM »
Quote from: Anne on March 19, 2008, 02:38:49 PM
Not sure they had lions in Ancient Egypt, Christine?   8:)
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Goodness me yes, Anne - even had a Lion Goddess.... (Sehkmet)

and they found a mummified one a few years back ...
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/01/0114_040114_egyptlionmummy.html
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Re: It's says Austria but think its British
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2008, 04:00:32 PM »
Ahhh not yet Christine, there are some on the shelf I've not reached yet!

Thanks both for the correction - you learn something new every day! :)
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