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late 18th or early 19th century porcelain tea bowl saucer
« on: May 14, 2016, 06:37:01 PM »
Not sure if this is a late 18th century or early 20th century porcelain saucer with pink handpainted floral sprigs and a pink rim. The saucer has a fluted rim. 5 3/8" in diameter. Has 158 painted on the reverse. I have had this saucer for a few years, but never been able to find another like it or ID who made it.

Also not too sure if it is English porcelain or not, if English, which Factory, as I know there are a few that used painted numbers on the reverse, Spode, New Hall etc

Thanks for any help.

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Re: late 18th or early 19th century porcelain tea bowl saucer
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2016, 12:35:21 AM »
Are those impressed marks above the numbers or is it my eyes ?  ;D ;D

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Re: late 18th or early 19th century porcelain tea bowl saucer
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2016, 06:46:31 AM »
The numbers are located on the inside of the base ring, no impressed marks anywhere. They are just feint and very small craze lines I think, the camera must have picked them up, not to visible with the naked eye.

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Re: late 18th or early 19th century porcelain tea bowl saucer
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2016, 01:56:02 PM »
Had a look through my one and only porcelain book and the only thing I can find with that particular purple / lavender colouring is a Lowestoft mug, late 18th century, best I can do,  ;D ;D

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Re: late 18th or early 19th century porcelain tea bowl saucer
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2016, 08:32:18 AM »
Thanks Keith but it is definitely not Lowestoft porcelain, I know it too well (I lived in Lowestoft for 13 years, just recently moved from there), and have a small collection of Lowestoft tea bowls and saucers, jugs etc Lowestoft do not mark with pattern numbers, but some items may be marked with one number in blue, for the artist or a blue crescent mark.

I used to go to Russell Sprakes Lowestoft Porcelain auctions regularly, up until he died in Aug 2014. Someone else is now running those auctions at different venue for the last year.

It is probably by Keeling / Factory X, just had me stumped, as searching through books, V&A collections online, general googling, I couldn't find another for a definitive ID.

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Re: late 18th or early 19th century porcelain tea bowl saucer
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2016, 01:38:19 PM »
You know a lot more than me then  ;D most of my pottery stuff is Japanese, think I'll stick to glass !  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: late 18th or early 19th century porcelain tea bowl saucer
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2016, 03:14:04 AM »
I had a bowl decorated like that, only it was in black rather than red. This is a good website for things like that.... http://www.chinacupboard.co.uk/

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Re: late 18th or early 19th century porcelain tea bowl saucer
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2016, 06:43:17 AM »
I had a bowl decorated like that, only it was in black rather than red. This is a good website for things like that.... http://www.chinacupboard.co.uk/

I have searched loads of website, including the one you referenced, I have that one bookmarked :-) thank you though.

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Re: late 18th or early 19th century porcelain tea bowl saucer
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2016, 06:45:00 AM »
You know a lot more than me then  ;D most of my pottery stuff is Japanese, think I'll stick to glass !  ;D ;D ;D

LOL I do know a fair bit about 18th century porcelain and Georgian silver! Strange collection mix, but what I like :-)

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Re: late 18th or early 19th century porcelain tea bowl saucer
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2016, 05:33:28 PM »
Stranger the better if you ask me !  :o ;D ;D ;D

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Re: late 18th or early 19th century porcelain tea bowl saucer
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2016, 08:10:33 AM »
 ;D LOL

 

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