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Offline antiquerose123

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CHINESE or JAPANESE ??
« on: September 08, 2007, 09:24:30 AM »
Hi - I have this bowl, and I do not know ??? what you would call the shape, but is it Chinese or Japanese?  Would anyone know the age, value, info on this.  It appears to like enamel pixs on it, and with some high gold on it.  It is about 6 inches high, and wide with the scalloped edges...

If ANYONE  :pst: can help me on this with any information, that would be great.  I have already looked at the Chinese/Japanese sites that you have posted here, but I am still NOT sure :hb: , nor do I know what it says on the bottom....

Help...... :hlp:

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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2007, 06:56:04 PM »
http://www.gotheborg.com/marks/index-china-marks.htm Lynne posted this ages ago in the GMB, it may help you
 :pst: is it ok to post this Anne?
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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2007, 08:42:56 PM »
Would these kind of colours be known as Famille Rose or perhaps Famille verte?
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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2007, 10:11:13 PM »
Yep links are fine Sue. :)
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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2007, 10:22:15 PM »
Quote from: Tigerchips on September 08, 2007, 08:42:56 PM
Would these kind of colours be known as Famille Rose or perhaps Famille verte?

Thanks..i had already went through those sites, and boy, it sure is hard to just find just the right one.... :tgs: what does Famille Rose or Famille Verte mean?  And would the coating be like enamel, or ??? what ?    Any information most welcomed...

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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2007, 10:46:21 PM »
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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2007, 02:38:16 PM »
Also dont forget that Meissen and Worcester used mark's similar to chinese symbols, and so did Samson.
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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2007, 08:15:50 PM »
Really :o...others markers used marks similar to Chinese symbols ???  I didn't know that.  Honest, I just thought the chinese used their own symbols ONLY.  GREAT to learn more, and the benefits of this forum  ;)  I wonder if there are more *dummies* like me that never knew that...gosh :blush:  THANKS..

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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2007, 11:13:55 PM »
Hi A.R, Yes, maker's used what they thought looked like chinese symbols they made their own up, google fake Chinese pottery marks, you will be surprised.

BTW, Can we please call you by a name you choose? AR, or Antiquerose is a bit impersonal, what about Rose or Anti? :)
p.s. your not a dummy :)
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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2007, 11:18:50 PM »
Thanks Sue...i will do that...too gullible here...I think, or hope that mine is real chinese thing....cuz if it was a fake...I think it was really well done...so that is why, I think due by the quality of it...it just seems too well made...BUT then, who knows....lets keep our fingers crossed....

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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2007, 11:23:56 PM »
OH dont get me wrong :hlp: some of the best porcelain and pottery factories  used chinese looking symbols, it was a trend of the time.
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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2007, 11:34:59 PM »
Really....boy, this is just like school  ;D today....I thought if they were fake marks, then that would lessen the value...ohhh that is good to hear.  I have not got to that site listed, and the others yet....but will.  Thanks, here's "TWO"  :kissy: :kissy:

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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2007, 11:44:51 PM »
yes...you may call me (ROSE :rse:) ....I would prefer that, I guess.  When i see AR....I think of a-r-r-r-r-g-g-g.....lol :24: :24: or just call me ( :rse: symbol)....whatever your wish...... >:D  just kidding...I hope??

But *ROSE* IS PERFECT......< a beautiful flower waiting to wilt... > :czy:

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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2007, 08:47:14 AM »
Here are a few examples of Pseudo Chinese seal marks.
http://www.chinacupboard.co.uk/sealgp.htm

Imitation marks were also made by Caughley, Derby, Miles Mason and others.

If it has an orange colour around the unglazed area of the foot rim I would say that it's probably Chinese.
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Re: CHINESE or JAPENESE ??
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2008, 08:45:15 PM »
Need clearer pics of the mark, though I can make out what appears to read 'Zhongguo', so definitely Chinese.
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Re: CHINESE or JAPANESE ??
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2010, 06:25:01 PM »
I'd say Chinese,the mark that looks like a box with a line down means China(the seal mark is upside down) the bottom left means 'made' and is used in Chinese and Japanese,Keith.
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Re: CHINESE or JAPANESE ??
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2014, 10:48:52 AM »
Better Pics added.....Did not forget  :24: some many years later.....LOL

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